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In article <[e-mail]>, cjtsui <[e-mail]> writes:

>> I'll be going, and since I'm trying to persuade my partners that
>> Lightwave is a better solution for us than 3DS, I'd love to talk to
>> any other game creators using it.
>>
>> John Brandwood
>> Left Field Productions
>
>i hope to be there too, should be interesting
>
>

     Ok, lets plan a lightwave users meet, or something like that. I think
it would be very benificial to get together with some other lightwave game
creators and swap ideas about how we've delt with things. I know I've
written about 20 plugins now, to deal with our issues, and I'm sure a lot
of people out there have done the same. I'm also sure others will come
across the same bariers we did, and others have probrobly already solved
ones we have yet to face - so I think some discussion could be a good
thing for everyone. Not to mention meeting some of the people on this list
would be interesting..



Jason Booth
Second Nature, Inc.
 "I'm programing a raytracer that only outputs in ASCII art! I'LL BE
RICH!!!!"



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From: Carl Gustafsson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Q: Anims in Win95
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:51:09 -0800
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I'm very new to LightWave, and I have problems saving animations to disk.
When rendering animations and choosing to save them as AVI-16 there is no
result on the disk. No file is written. Is there anyone else having the
same problem? Does anyone know how to solve this?
I run LW (4) under Win95.

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From: TL Westgate <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Computer Graphics Job Offer
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:42:16 -0500
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KEVIN MCLAINE wrote:
>
> WORK FROM YOUR HOME WITH YOUR COMPUTER
>
> 3RD Dimension Technologies, INC, a Hollywood special FX company
>
> searching for computer literate people to contract with to assist
>
> in 3D graphics. Will train but must already know Windows 3.1 or better.
>
> System Requirements
>
> 486 DX 2-66, 8 meg RAM
> IBM PC or compatable
> Super VGA Color Monitor
> Running Windows 3.1 or better
>
> For more info call Tracy or Robin at 800/455-3558

I called this number and it's a rip-off!!!! Don't bother, they want you
to pay them up front for their software! Avoid this sham!
--
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|visit the Juris web site at http://www.oo.com/~juris|
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From: [e-mail] (Brad Peebler)
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Subject: Re: Going to E3?
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 16:43:32 GMT
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Could you guys send me email about the games you are working on? I
would really like to create a list of games using LW. I would of
course make this list available to you all if you want to uae it as
leverage to get LW into a project!


Thanks
BP
NewTek

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel J. McCoy)
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Subject: Re: Looking for lha archiver
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:05:35 GMT
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In article <4j78mc$[e-mail]>, "Mark S. Howard" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I'm running Lightwave on an SGI (UNIX OS) and would like to take advantage of
>the loads of models availble at ftp sites.  Unfortunately all the stuff I have
>found is in .lha format.  Does anyone know where I can find an lha archive
>utility that will run on my SGI?

I would imagine an SGI owner with a C compiler (most Unix OSs have that) can
take the LHARC archive and compile it lickety-split with no porting hassles.
I can't recall where I found the original Unix LHARC archive but try Archie.
LHARC (at least the version I found with I THINK is V1.02?) will handle the
lha files with no problems.

Good luck,
Dan

--
Daniel J. McCoy - [e-mail] or [e-mail]
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From: Mike Schnabel <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:28:33 -0800
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Tom Smith wrote:

> I too used Imagine, but I've achived my ambition of the last 6-7 years and
> now have a copy of Lightwave. It's smmmmokin!! Anyway In lightwave, to create a
> path in the Layout section, position your object where you want it (you can
> instantly view it from the camera, any light sources, any object, the view from
> itself, or from where ever else you want to be). Go to the frame that you want
> to be in, and create a key frame for your object. Then you move the object
> to where it should end up and advance the frame to where ever it needs to be,
> and create another key frame. You can keep doing this as mush as you want to
> further refine the path, but when you're done making key frames, you can
> view its motion graph and easily describe how it moves along its path. The
> things I like about it is that you can always view what's going on from the
> object's perspective, and you can easily create complex paths that would be
> very time consuming in Imagine. And you don't even have to whip out your
> calculator to do anything interesting.

Imagine also has a similar system for object movement. What I described to you earlier
was movement along a path. You can also move the object using key frames the way you
described for LW with the exeption that it does not automaticallly create a path that can
be edited. The one bitch I have in imagine is the method Imagine uses to smooth the
motion over several key frames sometimes is a bit unpredictable. Other than That I don't
see too much difference here.

I still hope to by LW some time but I will have to save for awhile. House needs new
windows first and other stuff like that. I am also waiting to see If either Newtek os
Impulse decides to support the PPC Amigas that are coming.

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From: Steve Warner <[e-mail]>
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Subject: NonLinearEditing w/Lightwave & PAR
Date: 26 Mar 1996 10:28:02 -0700
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Hello all!  I want to do some basic non-linear editing work with my PAR
and Lightwave.  I'm running into several problems, however.  With the PAR
import/export set to translate ON with IFF file type, my 3.5 version of
Lightwave standalone has trouble reading the sequence of images from the
PAR drive.  I keep getting an error message saying that Lightwave
can't decode scanline 13.  I could export all my frames to my hard
drive, but that would be extremely time consuming and taxing on my
system.  Has anyone experienced similar difficulties?

Second, about a year ago a thread came up about aspect ratios with
Lightwave.  I want to be able to use Lightwave as a DVE processor.  With
the source B video as my background image and my source A video mapped
onto a rectangle that can flip, spin, fly, etc. off the screen.  Does
anyone remember the outcome of that thread?  What is the proper aspect
ratio needed for both the rectangle and the output of Lightwave?  If
anyone can help here, please email me at the addres below.

Thanks in advance,

Steve Warner
Visionary Design

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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: NewTek Fix the NT-AVI.P please
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:36:40 +0000
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Hmm..Yea i tried scrubbing using media player..the AVI does
show up about 50 frames later...and is 29k larger! Just
imagine how a large AVI would increase in size..So you guys
think this happens in PREMIER TOO???? If it is indeed a fualt
of MicroSoft AVI system..then, it should happen in Premier
too..unless they found a way around it...

Adam Chrystie


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From: marcel meuldijk <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Q: Anims in Win95
Date: 26 Mar 1996 18:02:06 GMT
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Carl Gustafsson <[e-mail]> writes:
> I'm very new to LightWave, and I have problems saving animations to disk.
> When rendering animations and choosing to save them as AVI-16 there is no
> result on the disk. No file is written. Is there anyone else having the
> same problem? Does anyone know how to solve this?
> I run LW (4) under Win95.

you must give a .avi extension on the end


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Thompson)
Subject: Re: Who's going to NAB?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Fusion Films, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:45:10 GMT
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>> : >1: Fori Owurowa - "Keeper of the twisty box"
>> : 2: Alan Chan - No honorary title as such..
>>  3: Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, Questar Productions. "The obligatory Noble Gas"
>>  4: Simon Blackledge ,transmission 3d ,based in the uk

5: Mark (Habanero-Jones) Thompson

  *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
  *           Mark Thompson           http://www.mv.com/ipusers/fusion  *
  *         Fusion Films, Inc.              [e-mail]          *
  * Director of Animation and Special FX      [phone]            *
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From: [e-mail] (Leuey)
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Subject: Re: NewTek Fix the NT-AVI.P please
Date: 26 Mar 1996 13:07:58 -0500
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   Blank sceen?  Yup, it's there, just move the slider around and curse a
lot.

Greg

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Thompson)
Subject: Re: LWPro Compilation Book
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:11:22 GMT
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>> it took us a bit longer to get all the
>>author releases to re-publish the articles. We didn't really have to do
>>this; fair use gives us the right to re-publish these works in a compiled
>>form without permission or compensation, but we felt it was the right
>>thing to do.

> I vote for including Mark Thompson's articles, if your contract
> with authors did indeed allow republication as you imply.

You misunderstand Jim's post. I signed no contract that stated my
work could be republished at will. Jim is saying that it could be
legally argued that they have that right. Personally, I can't imagine
it would be worth the battle. I think the route AMG has tacken is the
best course of action. I know I would be pretty upset if every other
author signed aggreements and was compensated, while my work
was simply republished against my will.
  *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
  *           Mark Thompson           http://www.mv.com/ipusers/fusion  *
  *         Fusion Films, Inc.              [e-mail]          *
  * Director of Animation and Special FX      [phone]            *
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From: Wayne Baldwin <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Chess Pieces
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:52:34 -0600
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Does anyone out there know where I can find some decent chess
piece models that are public domain?

Thanks,
Wayne R. Baldwin
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Leuey)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave Suggestions
Date: 26 Mar 1996 12:57:05 -0500
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  Here's a simple suggestion.  All I want to do is select multiple
objects, lights, ect.  For instance, when you want to parent 15 different
objects to one null you have to do each one individually.  Why not just
SHIFT+Click?  What about when you want to move 20 objects to the same Y
location?  You have to do them all individually or fool with the motion
graphs or load motion files.  Why not just SHIFT+Click all 20 objects and
keyframe the Y position?  Seems simple enough, in fact I'd be surprized if
it isn't implemented in the next release (better be..)

later

Greg

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From: [e-mail](Alan Chan )
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Subject: Re: Star Wars and LightWave
Date: 26 Mar 1996 15:41:51 GMT
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In <4j1p9b$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Elfwork) writes:

>>almost everyone has ripped off his look at one time or another..
>Sure, just take the widely distributed 'Generic.Panels' bitmap, slap
it
>any old way onto the surface, and 'boom' you've got yourself a B5
ship!
>
>Great design, but why do so many different aliens use the same type of
>hull plating?!? :^)


Come on, can't you make up plausible scientific mumbo-jumbo on your
own??

They're, um, phargyllite, a composite polysaturate that is the only
substance that can withstand those small meteorite hits indefinitely,
so all the aliens use the same material. OK?

AC


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From: [e-mail] (Thies Uhl)
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Subject: Re: suche deutsche ligthwavebenutzer
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Hi,

Ich reihe mich auch ein. Interesse an einem gemeinsamen Projekt?

-Thies-

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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
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Michael D. Bartman wrote:

>> Money doesn't "have" value; it *is* value.
>
> Nope, money, like everything else, *has* value.

No.  A meter doesn't "have" length.  Light doesn't "have" photons.
Money doesn't "have" value.  To put it another way, *what is* money?

Don't be confused by the fact that value varies over time and between
different people.  This is irrelevant.

- Ernie


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Garrison)
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[e-mail] (Mark Thompson) wrote:

>>> : >1: Fori Owurowa - "Keeper of the twisty box"
>>> : 2: Alan Chan - No honorary title as such..
>>>  3: Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, Questar Productions. "The obligatory Noble Gas"
>>>  4: Simon Blackledge ,transmission 3d ,based in the uk

>5: Mark (Habanero-Jones) Thompson

6. Richard Garrison- WAVELENGTH



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From: [e-mail] (Jeffery S. Jones)
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On 25-Mar-96 11:53:07, InstntGuts <[e-mail]> wrote:
><<No no no, you got it backwards.  It may look realistic but it doesn't
>look real.  Real is real.  Realistic means it sort of has the
>appearance of looking real but without actually being real.
>--
>                      -=Fred=->>

>"Danger, Will Robinson -- alien tautology approaching!"

>I think the only thing important in the depiction or representation of
>_anything_ that one wants to make "real" or "believable" is
>*verisimilitude* -- the "appearance of being real." That is, if people
>believe in whatever you're representing. It's kinda irrelevant that one
>argues that something doesn't look "real" because you know it doesn't
>exist. I don't walk down the street, seeing jumpcuts and people walking
>in slow motion with film grain, and credits scrolling over my field of
>view, either, but I accept this when I see a piece of movie film
>*depicting* this. If, every time one looked at something one had to
>judge whether it was real or not, and constantly say, "oh, this isn't
>real," then fiction
>-- hell, art of any kind -- wouldn't exist.

>The only thing that matters is the suspension of disbelief -- "does
>this look like the thing that this is supposed to represent, whether it
>really exists or not?" If yes, then the artists have done their job. If
>not, then maybe not. OTOH, a lot of people don't believe in things that
>really DO exist, whether you show them photos (another depiction, not
>"real") or not. "Reality" is a state of mind. (Boy, that sounds like a
>SIG line.)

  Yes, but as strange as it may seem, the special effects in older
movies seemed "real" to people when they came out, yet by modern
standards they don't hold up.  "Reality" is a state of mind :)

  But it doesn't mean realistic.  The level of ambient light on
starships on TV, the motion paths they take, etc., isn't consistent with
what we know of reality (at least, not all the time).  And I still
believe that the look of models in Star Wars has pretty much set the
standard for how spaceships should look, and anything appearing
differently doesn't match this "real look" we've become used to.

  Thus, cool looking spacecraft which don't look like this aren't
accepted as "real looking".

>I've never seen the U.S.S. Voyager fly over my house -- but I believe
>that the model, whether physical or CGI, looks like... well, a
>realistic depiction of the mythical U.S.S. Voyager, a 24th century
>starship lost who knows where... I believe that it's what it's supposed
>to be.

  It looks nice, yes, but isn't the lighting amazing for an object in
deep space?  Wow, somehow that warp field generates indirect ambient
glows all around the ship's hull ;)

>If it were a purple Adidas shoebox tooling through space, crawling with
>an inch-thick matte line, I probably wouldn't think so. <g>

  I watched Spaceballs the other day, and the Centennial Eagle looked
quite "real", just like a Winnebago with wings and hyperjets flying in
space.  Nice "dirt" on the hull as well. <g>.

  With regard to B5, which generates this "it doesn't look like models"
problem, I'll have to watch my tapes again to see.  But unless a given
ship looks glaringly out of place with respect to its background,
lighting, etc., I don't see how you can claim that it isn't realistic
within the context of the SF technologies.

  One element to consider:  Metallic hulls, bolts, and related grid
structures may be only a passing phase.  The use of colorful plastic
materials, if stronger than metals, has already been considered (look at
modern automobiles!), and powered materials (hulls which are made partly
of energy) surely won't look like metal objects.  And "weathering" in
space isn't something that has to happen, nor does it have to be left in
place.

  In B5, The Terran technology is supposed to be earth-like, and thus
somewhat familiar.  Alien technology, especially things like the
Vorlons, Mbari, and Shadows, is very, very different.

  And does anyone think that B5's space scenes don't look cool?

  {Oops, bad question.  I don't want flames, but wouldn't mind seeing
intelligent discussion regarding why they aren't.)



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> Please send specifics about configuration and symptoms to
> [e-mail] so we can continue or quest for flawless AVI and
> format support.
Brad,
        Are Newtek aware that the entire AVI mechanism under Windows is
about to get a much overdue overhaul? The new (Quartz) system will
integrate plug-in encoders and decoders and will feature a software MPEG
solution.  This sounds like good news to me - and I suspect good news for
your development team.

        However, I suspect that further investment of effort in the HIIP
plug-in may well be wasted work.

Glyn Williams - Particle Systems Ltd.

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I have heard many things about forge and was wondering if someone here can
elaborate more on it.  I mainly would like to use it for making textures
and image maps.  what are its strengths and is it available for the amiga
and nt platforms?  thx

emmanuel

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I am currently trying to animate a world war II plane and would like your
suggestions for making the propeller spin.  I don't need it to start and
speed up, I would just like to know how to spin it. thx

EMmanuel

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I am seriously considering switching from my amiga to a pentium/nt-based
system.  what are good system requiremnts and brands and how much should I
expect to pay, inc. the price on the NT O/S and the LW4.0 software. thx.

Emmanuel

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[e-mail] (FXMatte) wrote:

>>>     Does anyone out there know of a good paint package for the DEC
>ALPHA

> Look for the upcoming X-Rez for Windows and the currently available
>Picture Publisher.  In the image processing department check out Win
>Images from Black Belt Systems.  Hope this helps.

>Matt Merkovich
Picture Publisher which is part of Micorgraphix Graphic Suite does not
work on the Alpha. I have tried it. Apparently, at one time there was
a beta version for the Alpha but it was never released.  I know it's
in the DEC database, but trust me. I bought it, tried it and returned
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Hi!

The International Animation Festival (Cardiff, UK, 27 May - 1 June) is now
on the net. It's a bit basic at the moment, but check out my awesome list
of links to other animation sites. Bookmark it and check it out regularly
as we put more up.

http://www.emap.com/animation

Cheers

Carl Franklin

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Uhhh...What problems are you experiencing in your attempts to
make the propeller spin??

Adam Chrystie
[e-mail]
www2.ucsc.edu/people/adamchry/index.html  <--Lw Pix



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>   [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) writes:
>  Any ideas on how to do a StarGate type effect where a face (live video
>  sequence - not a model) would emerge through a reflective surface?

>  The problem with this idea is that it requires a fair amount of manual
>  manipulation though I am pretty sure it would work.  Does anyone know of a
>  more elegant solution?

    You could do it the way they did it:  lower a person into a swimming
    pool......

>
>  Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]

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>   [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) writes:
>  For what its worth, I have Elastic Reality and it has done odd things like
>  invert images for no apparent reason.  It also wouldn't accept an AVI this
>  week as an image sequence.  I like ER, but it is hardly perfect. I wouldn't
>  presume fault on either party's side.

    HO!  I thought it was just me:  yes, occasionaly I'd get an inverted
    image also in ER, but it was never repeatable.  Bizarre!  (Pretty
    rare, though.)


>
>
>  Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]

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>   [e-mail] (Fusion Films) writes:
>  Sorry for the rant, but if you look at Fred Floaty and realize that it
>  was done with LW 1.0, you'd understand that almost anything can be
>  accomplished with just a little thought.
>
>  (Fred Floaty also had a GLOWING neon sign before the glow feature was a
>  twinkle in AH's eye!)

    Mark can correct me on this, but I think his "glow function" will
    probably render a lot faster too.  AND work with field rendering.


>
>  Paul Griswold

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>>> : >1: Fori Owurowa - "Keeper of the twisty box"
>>> : 2: Alan Chan - No honorary title as such..
>>>  3: Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, Questar Productions. "The obligatory Noble
Gas"
>>>  4: Simon Blackledge ,transmission 3d ,based in the uk

>5: Mark (Habanero-Jones) Thompson

> 6. Richard Garrison- WAVELENGTH

> 7. I already mentioned Lee (Hung In Effigy) Stranahan
   8. Would be Ken (Doesn't readily admit being related to Lee) Stranahan


_____________________________________________
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Mark Dunakin wrote:
>
> On Sun 24-Mar-1996  1:26p, Leuey wrote:
> L>   I really don't think that the zip works well (if at all) under NT.
> L> Maybe it does now. I have an Iomega tape backup drive and it stopped
> L> working when I switched to NT, and their official stance is "we don't
> L> support NT, contact Microsoft".  I ended up getting the Syquest EZ 135,
> L> works like a charm, love it!
>
> L> later
> L> greg
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Just thought I'd through in my two cents. I have a Zip and it works great on
> my NT 3.5.1 system. The software that came with it didn't do squat though and
> I kept trying to get it to work that way before I realised that the NT OS just
> didn't need the software.......hmmmm The one problem that I did have, was that
> when i plugged it into the back of the machine, it always bumped all the drive
> letters up one and then I couldn't get any of my programs to work fron the
> icons and the only way I was able to get them to work was by using the Run A
> Program from the Program Manager. So what i did was to install another SCSI
> cable that bypassed the other devices and now everything works fine...
>
> ..............see ya..........md :)

Ya, but I think he was talking about the Parallel version, not the
SCSI one...

Regards,

R.

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Robert K. Williams wrote:
>
> In article <4impn0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (emmanuel olympia) wrote:
> >
> >I have seen all the stranahan tapes and hungry for more lightwave lessons.
> > can you recommend some good LW books that covers modeler, surfacing, and
> >lighting.  thx
> >
> The new book by Alan Chan is suppose to be good for Lightwave and Modeler, but
> you should get a subscription to Lightwave Pro.  It's probably your best
> source for consistantly good tutorials.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob

There's also Exploring Lightwave 3D! by Todd Payne (ISBN 1-884474-12-8)
which includes a disk w/ all of the models/scenes used in the examples.

$59.95


Regards,

R.

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>   [e-mail] (Gareth Collins) writes:
>  In article <4ifcd4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>  |>
>  |>     Well, your brother is wrong.  Realistic is NASA.  I've yet to see
>  |>     anything but "Apollo 13" that looked at all similar to NASA film.
>  |>
>  |>     What they ARE is stylized in a way we accept and like.  Which is fine.
>  |>
>      Well, since nobody has witnessed battles in space as yet, who can say
>      what is 'realistic' and what isn't? Jeric is right, it all comes down to
>      STYLE, the style of the animators/designers/director etc. If all Space
>      stuff was made to be totally realistic then it would probably be as
>      boring as hell to look at!


    Indeed.  Space battles will be mostly invisible:  reality would be boring.

    Arthur C. Clarke USED this shortcoming in a book whose name escapes me:
A mysterious installation toasted some ships with what appeared to be death beams.
Then it dawns on the protagonist that he wouldn't SEE beams in space:  what it
was was molten rock from the center of the Moon, and the installation was a mining
experiment, altered for defense.  (And plot purposes.....)


> Personally, who cares if it looks real, as
>      long as it is impressive visually - its all fantasy anyway....

    Yup yup yup.  Or if they give us a good "reason", like the knife fighting
in "Dune".

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>   Shadowbird <[e-mail]> writes:
>  > It would definitely add something - remember the upside-down and
>  > sideways rooms in the 2001: space station dock, or the long pull back
>  > showing Bruce Dern in the galley window of the Valley Forge in Silent
>  > Running?

    Yeah:  where'd the gravity come from on that ship?

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Subject: Re: Help with Golf ball texture on sphere.
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Phil South wrote:
>
> Completely round textures. Can someone put us out of our misery here. Do
> any of you pro Lightwave mechanics have any idea how to get a spherical
> map onto a golf ball/football/soccer ball/mirror ball without having the
> top of the texture pinched in like a stick of rock?
>
> There has to be a way. I've seen balls modelled in soccer game intros and
> on TV so there must be a way of doing it.

Try making your sphere with Segments=(sides/2)+1 (use the [numeric]
panel to access these settings).  This seems to work well for the stock
procedural textures and those applied with a spherical map method. May
not eliminate it, but it definitely improves it...

R.

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>   Marco Tempest <[e-mail]> writes:
>  are there any standalone renderers for LW Intel or must I buy a complete LW package for every
rendering machine ?
>  please advise...
>  Marco Tempest
>  [e-mail]
>
>>>>
    It comes with its own standalone renderer:  up to 1,000 machines.

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Simon Blackledge wrote:
>
> In message <[e-mail]>
>         Remko Steenstra <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> > Animation, Factory wrote:
> > >
> > > For all of you waiting for the 95 Interface for NT it has been out
> > > from Microsoft for a while now, but I keep reading about people
> > > waiting for it??
> > > Go get it!! It works fine. It's on there Web site FREE!!!!
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > Have Fun
> > >
> > > Wayne
> > > Animation Factory
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Well, I went over their free software index
> > thoroughly, but I couldn't find it...
> > What's the file called and where is it exactly?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Remko
>
> ok use ftp to
> ftp.microsoft.com
> home directory is /bussys/winnt/nt-unsup-ed/newshell/
>
> look for the file with I at the end for intel.
> also get the read me`s and do read them first .

Be forewarned that it's a memory/resource hog, and will slow LW down a
bit (especially in rendering).  Note John Gross' waring in LWpro a few
issues back..

Regards,

R.

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From: marc <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:50:44 -0800
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I'm trying to help a friend network his amiga 4000 and dx/2 66 running
win 95 to share files or network.  I was wondering if there is any
software out there that will help us out.

thanks,
Cameron Tofer

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From: [e-mail] (Gord Davison)
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[e-mail] (Alan Ridgeway) wrote:
> Has any one used Mesh Paint for WinNT?
> Any comments?

In article <4ib1tm$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gord
Davison) wrote:

>> Functional. But it's no Amazon Paint :-)

>How do they compare?
>Features vs cost?

>(Isn't Amazon Paint only an SGI program, or did I miss an announcemnet?)

Sorry about my original post. Didn't mean to be so trite.

Let me first expand on Meshpaint. [Disclaimer: I've only used the freely
distributable version available from NewTek's FTP site]. The newest demo
version works as advertised; that is, it allows you to paint on your model,
save the images, and map them in LW the same way you choose to map them while
making them in Meshpaint. The software handles image maps as they will appear
in LW. I hasten to add that it is an excellent complement to LW, especially
if you do a lot of "decalling" or mapping that doesn't easily lend itself
to planar, cylindrical, spherical or cubic mapping. The newest version
[from NewTek's FTP site] is also an improvement over the original demo version
which only allowed painting on one polygon at a time.

I should clarify this as well: there are actually two Amazon Paints. One is
a 2D special FX, image processing-type program -- sort of a Photoshop on
quaaludes [!?] -- called Amazon Paint. Amazon 3D Paint allows painting directly
onto the surface of 3D models in real-time and is functionally equivalent to
Meshpaint.

A direct comparison isn't really fair. Indeed, the Amazon Paints *only* run on
SGI [AFAIK] and the price is, well, steep. I believe Amazon Paint [2D] retails
for about $3500 and Amazon 3D Paint is around $2000. I'm not sure what the price
is for Meshpaint. [Brent?] Suffice to say, it isn't that much.

Amazon 3D Paint's most compelling features may be a by-product of the SGI
platform as much as anything else. *Fast* real-time zooming, rotation, & panning.
Slickly integrated with Renderman. Multiple layers of texture, bump, opacity
maps, etc.

Here in the real world [at least for my *own* PC, anyway] I'm seriously
considering the commercial version of MP. What remains to be seen, however, is
how well integrated MP will be with LW's next release with regard to UV mapping
and other texturing capabilities. As a stand alone program for Windows95/NT,
it may not have the same level of integration that the IPAS 3DS implementation
does.

Hope this helps.

[My apologies to BM]

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Hi.  I am the president of StartNET Inc. I am an accomplished Web Page
Designer and I lack at this moment the creative skills to artistic work.

I currently need a logo that says "StartNET"  Use your own judgement for
size and shape.  This Logo would be going on hundreds of Web Pages
around the world.  In return for this favour StartNET inc. will make a
Standard Webpage (text, links and 3 graphics) for yourself as well as
posting on StartNET's main web page a special link to your page; also
informing the world on the great Creative and artistic ability of
yourself..

The contest closes April 31, 1996
Please send Logos to [e-mail]

Thanking you dearly

Your Friend on the NET!

Derek Reynolds
CEO, President of StartNET Inc.

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From: Scott Slaby <[e-mail]>
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Heres what the critics are saying about the Kiska-Blitz model at :

http://www.free.cts.com/sd/c/corvine/

Come and find out what all the fuss is about...

"That is a VERY IMPRESSIVE raytrace... I am just a new comer to
the raytracing scene and would like some tips if you have a chance..."

        Patrick
        [e-mail]
__
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"MY GOD MAN! Those ship models are really great!
I'm doing an animation myself using the POVRAY raytracer.
It's also an ambitious project but I'm not doing the detail
that you are.  I'm definitely putting a link to your
page from mine!

you wouldn't consider letting me have a copy of some of your
models to use in my movie?"

Jay Sprenkle

__
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"I just saw your homepage and I had to say that I am very
impressed by the detail level.
How does he manage to get such a high detail level.
I think this is probably the best I have seen done with
a 3d modeler."

Oyvind Eriksen
[e-mail]

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"Just one thing: how much time for that WONDERFUL spaceship ???
Beeing myself a 3d designer, I think I'd need months to do a so great
work !"

Arnaud.

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"That ship model is amazing!  I don't see how he was able to work with it
on the screen at that size.  There would just be so many lines going
across the screen, eventually.  If the world has any level of complexity
like that, it would be extremely impressive (although, with organic
shapes, it doesn't take too long to start getting in the millions of
triangles)."

Jon

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"GREAT GREAT GREAT !!!

This pics look great!  What more can I say?"


TnT Inc.

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"I have just one word: WOW!"


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"Me and my co-workers here think it's one hell of a cool
looking battle ship.  Can't wait to see what the city
looks like when it's finished."

Scratch

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"That was some really mind blowing models. Completly in 3ds 4 you say.
How long did it take to model that beast of a model ????
Impressive !"

====<Atico>==================
http://www.hifm.no/~df395sib
==========<Windows 95>=======

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Re: The battleship model on your page...

"Pardon my french, but it's pretty fucking amazing.
Actually, rendering it in pieces gives a sense of
the thing being absolutely immense, in the same way
that you couldn't fit the entire thing into a
single frame of a photograph."

erik robson
Washington University Sculpture Department

__
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"my name is Joerg from germany and i've seen your battleship images. I
think they're reaaly really great. Such a lot of detail i've never seen
before. GREAT.

But please tell me, how you created the laser beams in image 6."

Thanx and Bye

Joerg

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"GREAT!!!

Wow!!! This is f------ incredible!  I've been a 3D modeler using 3D
Studio for four years now and I have never seen anything like this in my
life... what does the mesh file LOOK like, for Christ's sake, and how
long does it take to load... or RENDER?

If possible, can you post a screen grab of the mesh file?  This thing is
AMAZING!"

Doug McKirahan

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"Your spaceship is amazing! Really shocking.

Keep on working: I'm waiting to see your planet!"


 Federico.

P.S.: How much is big the project? How many faces/vertex ?

__
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"I must say, that battleship model is pretty damn
good.  Not only the model but it is wonderfully
texture mapped.  Nice job!"


-Paolo Hutchison


Come see for yourself what all the fuss is about at :

http://www.free.cts.com/sd/c/corvine/

Let us know what YOU think...

Send your feedback to :

Scott Slaby
Corvine Productions
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: standalone renderer for LW needed
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In article <4j87i2$[e-mail]> Wooly Mittens <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Wooly Mittens <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: standalone renderer for LW needed
>Date: 26 Mar 1996 07:49:22 GMT


>What I'm looking for is a render blanker ;)

>Every time my computer is idle for more than 30 minutes, lighwave
>should start rendering a scene.

>It would also be nice to specify more than two scenes to render in
>succession (I hate putting my alarm clock at 3:00 AM).

>Wooly Mittens.

Under Win3.x this should be pretty easy to do with Visual Basic.  I wrote a
simple slide show program a few years ago and found that it was a simple
process to convert it into a screen saver.  I'm no programmer, but I am sure I
could do it if I had a day or so of free time.  As I recall, the basic idea
was to make some simple modifications and to rename the file to a .scr
extension.  Then just load it up as the screen saver under the Control Panel.
There is no reason it has to display images as I recall. People that really
know how to program could do it more elegantly, but I bet this would work.
This approach lets Windows monitor the activity or lack therof.  Less work for
the non-programmer.

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> typhoto <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: typhoto <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: standalone renderer for LW needed
>Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:40:03 -0600

>> The standalone renderer is included free with each copy of Lightwave, and
>> may be installed on as many render-only systems as you like.
>>

>Yes, if they are networked together.

>--
>Typhoto

Actually, you can use ScreamerNet on a non-networked machine with no control
program.  All you have to do is copy a couple of simple ASCII text files
with the appropriate commands to the control directory and away you go.


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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
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In message <4j9b5h$[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (Leuey) writes:

>   Here's a simple suggestion.  All I want to do is select multiple
> objects, lights, ect.  For instance, when you want to parent 15 different
> objects to one null you have to do each one individually.  Why not just
> SHIFT+Click?  What about when you want to move 20 objects to the same Y
> location?  You have to do them all individually or fool with the motion
> graphs or load motion files.  Why not just SHIFT+Click all 20 objects and
> keyframe the Y position?  Seems simple enough, in fact I'd be surprized if
> it isn't implemented in the next release (better be..)

> later

> Greg

How about an ineractive hierachy window like in soft image,u can just
drag the lines around with some keys held and change parents the lot?:-}

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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
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In message <[e-mail]>
        Wayne Baldwin <[e-mail]> writes:

> Does anyone out there know where I can find some decent chess
> piece models that are public domain?

> Thanks,
> Wayne R. Baldwin
> [e-mail]

Arn`t there some on the lw cdrom?You could try the new lightrom3?

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From: [e-mail] (The Digital Nomad)
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William Leventry ([e-mail]) wrote:
: On 22 Mar 1996 12:07:43 -0500, [e-mail] (J Plant) wrote:
[snip]
:
: >P.S. Our policy on immediately charging credit cards is based on our
: >credit card merchant agreement that states that we must charge orders
: >within three days of receipt or they are invalid. Anyone who would like a
: >refund can mail or fax a refund request to: AMG Media, Inc., 1308 Orleans
: >Drive, Sunnyvale, CA 94089, fax:[phone]

: I've never heard this one before, and I think this only applies if you
: ACTUALLY have a product to ship at the time. Since you charged the
: cards some months ago, and have yet to ship product, I believe you are
: technically in violation of the law. I believe you must notify (in
: writing) of a delay in shipment, and offer a refund if desired. I
: don't think a post to Usenet gets it.

Well, the policy exists(not just for them..but for several merchants).
What happens is they get your card # and get an authorization for
charging the amount to your card...they then have from 3-7 days to
actually send in the charge.... I work for a comany that does this...so I
have seen this in effect.. BUT, you _are_ correct about their procedure
being illegal..they have a bunch of possible credit fraud charges against
them currently if a product was not shipped when stated at the time of
charge.

: Sorry if this post seems rash, but frankly I'm getting REAL tired
: of the piss poor business practices of companies related to LW in
: general. IMHO, in a more competitive market, you'd have been in
: bankruptcy a loooong time ago.
:
I agree...there has gotta be something done about this...maybe a credit
fraud charge _would_ do 'em some good?? I dunno anymore..I don't purchase
unless I can get the product in my grubby little hands in 3 days..and if
I can't I know what credit cards are good for....cancelling charges..:)

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Richard Garrison wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Mark Thompson) wrote:
>
> >>> : >1: Fori Owurowa - "Keeper of the twisty box"
> >>> : 2: Alan Chan - No honorary title as such..
> >>>  3: Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, Questar Productions. "The obligatory Noble Gas"
> >>>  4: Simon Blackledge ,transmission 3d ,based in the uk
>
> >5: Mark (Habanero-Jones) Thompson
>
> 6. Richard Garrison- WAVELENGTH---
7.Ken Geary - Ademco -(article on Ademco in April issue of PC Graphics & Video)

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From: [e-mail] (Frederick Y Mah)
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I think a couple people were looking for the new drivers or something.
So, they have been released.  Also, mail me if you are interested in
me mailing you a simple realtime rendering demo for the board.

http://www.diamondmm.com
ftp.diamondmm.com


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In article <4j7fbc$jlt$[e-mail]>, Steven Johansen ([e-mail]) writes:
>[e-mail] (Mark Dunakin) writes:
>
>>I'm sure that someone has asked this before, but I was wonderring if there is
>>a way to, after you build an object, that then you could reduce the number of
>>polygons it has? Like after I make a mountain range, but parts of it are flat
>>and havn't been moved up or anything? Did I make sense? If the answer is to
>>long or annoying to give, then just tell me where to look in the manual?
>
>       Lightwave has no automatic function to reduce the poly count
>       You can of course select polygons alongside one another manually
>and then merge them. I would generally consider this method too tedious
>to contemplate,particularly on a conplex object.
>

Yet it's been a feature of 'LW v the rest' discussions recently
(especially in relation to games) that the ability to control
detail/polygon level as you go makes LW particularly useful for low
poly count applications. What were they talking about? Anyone care to
clarify?


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From: The Hitchhiker <[e-mail]>
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Hi there,


Just downloaded and installed the new Win95 drivers for the Edge3D!!

They work great and all the problems with the older drivers and
LightWave are gone, (yes!! the previews work perfectly).
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From: [e-mail] (LuecKEM)
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Hi there,

in Germany there are no Lightwave books available. Does anybody know books
about lightwave 3D or are there any books/hints/TXT files on the net for
download.
Tell me

Thanks LuecKEM

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From: Wooly Mittens <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: standalone renderer for LW needed
Date: 27 Mar 1996 15:04:31 GMT
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[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) wrote:

> >From: Wooly Mittens <[e-mail]>
> >Subject: Re: standalone renderer for LW needed

>
> >What I'm looking for is a render blanker ;)
>
> >Every time my computer is idle for more than 30 minutes, lighwave
> >should start rendering a scene.
>
> >It would also be nice to specify more than two scenes to render in
> >succession (I hate putting my alarm clock at 3:00 AM).
>
> >Wooly Mittens.
>
> Under Win3.x this should be pretty easy to do with Visual Basic.  I wrote a

> Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
> Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
> http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber

To my great disappointment I have to confess that I'm still restricted
to an Amiga (student, money problems and all that...).

I once looked at Arexx but ran away screaming after trying to modify
a script to make animations in adpro.

I've made some programs in Blitz basic but i don't see how i could
control lightwave with it.

Wooly Mittens.

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From: [e-mail] (Brad Peebler)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Prem's "Stranahan-esque" rant
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:15:49 GMT
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[e-mail] (Simon Blackledge) wrote:


>> > -- Prem (who's tired of seeing his favorite animation program
>> >          almost as poorly marketed now is his favorite computer
>> >          once was - let's hope NewTek doesn't follow CBM to the
>> >          grave).

>> Come on Prem, it couldn't be as bad as all that. I didn't feel
>> the ad was so terrible. Advertising isn't a science anyway. You hit
>> with some and miss with others. It depends on whom the particular
>> ad was geared toward also. We all still love LightWave whether Newtek
>> is attatched to it or not. I personally feel sure that LightWave
>> couldn't possibly die, even if Newtek did.

>I still think it looks better than 3ds4 ad :-}
>At least the color scemes good and the layouts not bad.Put it on a
>wall against other adds and see which one stands out .

Let me point out that while many current LightWave users may not like
the "we've got what it takes" ad, it has generated more calls to
customer service than any ad we have run in the past. I know its hard
for LightWave users to see an ad that doesnt show off the output, or
tout the feature list, but this ad cut through the noise. It was
different, it had a good message, and it prompted people to call. And
yes sales went up.

Now, let me follow that by saying the ad has run its course. It did
what was intended and now we are ready to change gears. With a new
release on the horizon (thats all Im saying!) its time to refocus
marketing efforts not only on new users but also on the existing
install base. In May issues you will see new ads with a user focus.

OK, Ill be quiet now.

Thanks
BP


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From: [e-mail] (Glen Mead)
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Hi All,

  As a fairly inexperienced 3D animator, I'm trying to model a golf ball.
However, simply bump mapping a series of dimples (actually one dimple,
multiple copies) wrapped around a sphere does not create a realistic looking
golf ball...although it may do in a pinch.  The problem is that the spacing,
size, and shape of the dimples changes due to the wrap while all these
elements are consistent on a real golf ball.  How does one model a truly
realistic looking golf ball?  If anybody could give me some pointers on how
to do this (or find the necessary files to do so) it would be greatly
appreciated.  For the recorde, I am using Alias Animator 6.0 (not Power
Animator).  Thank-you in advance.

Glen Mead - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Brad Peebler)
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Subject: Re: 32 bit output on Intel Lightwave?
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[e-mail] ("Glyn Williams") wrote:


>Brad,
>        Are Newtek aware that the entire AVI mechanism under Windows is
>about to get a much overdue overhaul? The new (Quartz) system will
>integrate plug-in encoders and decoders and will feature a software MPEG
>solution.  This sounds like good news to me - and I suspect good news for
>your development team.

Yes, we are following Quartz development.

>        However, I suspect that further investment of effort in the HIIP
>plug-in may well be wasted work.

We are going to finish FLIC saving using HIIP, and there are some
other built in features that we havent exploited yet.

AVI saving may move from HIIP into a more robust NT-AVI saver for 95,
Quartz support etc. (I mean more robust than the current NT saver, not
the HIIP saver. Just want to make sure everyone knows Im not taking a
poke at ER!)

BP
NewTek


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From: [e-mail] (marcus hoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: how would you make a propeller spin?
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On 25 Mar 1996 18:23:06 GMT, [e-mail] (emmanuel olympia)
wrote:

>
>I am currently trying to animate a world war II plane and would like your
>suggestions for making the propeller spin.  I don't need it to start and
>speed up, I would just like to know how to spin it. thx
>
>EMmanuel

Try this:

Make the plane as minimum 2 objects (body & prop). In lightwave make
the body as the parent object of the propeller (Button is on the
bottom,center of the screen). Create two key-frames with about 24 or
30 frames (1 second in real time) between for the propeller. Go in the
motion graph menu, check your rotation axis and make a rotation for
about 1080 degrees. Klick in the same menu the end behaviour button
und fix it on repeat. That's it.
 You must try it by yourself how many frames you will use between the
keyframes, and how often the prop will spin in this time. Make sure
that you work with multiply of complete rotations (360 degrees).

[e-mail]



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[e-mail] (Glen Mead) wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>   As a fairly inexperienced 3D animator, I'm trying to model a golf ball.
> However, simply bump mapping a series of dimples (actually one dimple,
> multiple copies) wrapped around a sphere does not create a realistic looking
> golf ball...although it may do in a pinch.  The problem is that the spacing,
> size, and shape of the dimples changes due to the wrap while all these
> elements are consistent on a real golf ball.  How does one model a truly
> realistic looking golf ball?  If anybody could give me some pointers on how
> to do this (or find the necessary files to do so) it would be greatly
> appreciated.  For the recorde, I am using Alias Animator 6.0 (not Power
> Animator).  Thank-you in advance.
>
> Glen Mead - [e-mail]

One way would be to make a map of the entire golfball and correct
to the north and south pole for the distortion.
This can be done by streching the map in dpaint by wrap-filling
an hour-glass shape.

But I'm sure a procedural texture exists for this (check aminet)

Wooly Mittens.

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From: Mark Vearrier <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: need help with project
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:41:36 -0600
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Elaine Sue Parrish wrote:
>
> Please help me with my Thesis project.

>
> The point of my project is to collect job information about positions in
> the public or private sector that are available to persons with this
> education.
>
> These job titles do not have to be positions that are currently vacant.
> The idea here is to create a database of the kinds of jobs that are out
> there.
>

Wait, the point of the thesis is to help set up a network of info to
help find a job...............

Brilliant, what genius.
--
----------------------------------------------
Mark Vearrier        /Art Director-Animator
[e-mail]    /Origin Systems
I help make their games, not their opinions.
----------------------------------------------

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From: Elliot Bain <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 06:04:31 -0500
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >   Shadowbird <[e-mail]> writes:
> >  > It would definitely add something - remember the upside-down and
> >  > sideways rooms in the 2001: space station dock, or the long pull back
> >  > showing Bruce Dern in the galley window of the Valley Forge in Silent
> >  > Running?
>
>         Yeah:  where'd the gravity come from on that ship?
>
> ******************************************************************************
> ** [e-mail]                     |  Synergy Graphix & Animation   **
> ** Welcome to Seattle!  Have a latte'!     | Technical Subjects a Specialty!**
> ** Don't make me force it down your throat.|     "OK!  Wind the frog!"      **

If you remember, they used magnetic boots, or for running, they used a rotating
room, and the space station rotated. I don't think they left too much to bad
science in 2001.

Elliot Bain

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From: [e-mail] (Equinox II)
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1: Fori Owurowa - "Keeper of the twisty box"
2: Alan Chan - No honorary title as such..
3: Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, Questar Productions. "The obligatory Noble Gas"
4: Simon Blackledge ,transmission 3d ,based in the uk
5: Mark (Habanero-Jones) Thompson
6: Richard Garrison- WAVELENGTH---
7: Ken Geary - Ademco -(article on Ademco in April issue of PC Graphics &
Video)
8: Brian "Can only stand to be there Monday" Tatosky, Equinox Images, Inc.
Equinox Images, Inc.
http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/

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Hello,

I am now doing my final year project.  The area is to study back
lighting effect by using difference light-guide design.

I want to use rendering software to solve the light refraction and
rendering problem.  However, I have no experience on any rendering
software.  Can anyone give me suggestion about which software can
handle Light Refraction problem, which must truly base on Physics
equations, and help me to do a simple testing?

About the above testing, what I want to do is to create a simple 3D
solid model, says a "L" shape extrusion model.  Then apply a light
source on one end and see how will be the light effect on the other
end of the model.  So, if anyone can help me do the testing, then I
can send you the "L" shape solid model file (either AutoCAD format or
IGES format).  I hope the result can be saved as a TIFF, or BMP, etc.
format.

Any comment will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Best Regards,  Andy.



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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Prem's "Stranahan-esque" rant
Date: 27 Mar 1996 12:44:33 -0500
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Let me point out that while many current LightWave users may not like
the "we've got what it takes" ad, it has generated more calls to
customer service than any ad we have run in the past. I know its hard
for LightWave users to see an ad that doesnt show off the output, or
tout the feature list, but this ad cut through the noise. It was
different, it had a good message, and it prompted people to call. And
yes sales went up.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-

Let me do a 'fact check' here....

1) The 'We've got' generated more LW calls, perhaps - it was really only
the third ad ever for LW, and it followed a worse ad...it did surely not
generate more calls in general - there were may more 'Revolution' calls,
certainly

2) It was different than good - It was poorly written...the message was
'low price', essentially, not the one I'd put forward....

3) Sales can't 'go down', unless people return product. Sales haven't met
expectations, however - they can't be considered 'good' by too many
standards.

4) It's hard to test these things without a control group.

'Nothing was wrong, but we're changing gears" - please please please, stop
doing this. The Emporer has no clothes, and most people are smart enough
to know - even if you don't want to admit it....stop trying to put a
postive spin on everything...


_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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[e-mail] (Richard Garrison) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Mark Thompson) wrote:

>>>> : >1: Fori Owurowa - "Keeper of the twisty box"
>>>> : 2: Alan Chan - No honorary title as such..
>>>>  3: Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, Questar Productions. "The obligatory Noble Gas"
>>>>  4: Simon Blackledge ,transmission 3d ,based in the uk

>>5: Mark (Habanero-Jones) Thompson

>6. Richard Garrison- WAVELENGTH

Dave Thomas - Moving Pixels
Kim Thomas - Moving Pixels (if I can keep her out of the casinos...).




DT - Moving Pixels
South San Francisco, CA
"You didn't actually expect to be paid for your work, did you?" - actual ex-employer quote
[e-mail]


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From: Wayne Baldwin <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Chess Pieces
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:49:59 -0600
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Simon Blackledge wrote:
>
> In message <[e-mail]>
>         Wayne Baldwin <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> > Does anyone out there know where I can find some decent chess
> > piece models that are public domain?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Wayne R. Baldwin
> > [e-mail]
>
> Arn`t there some on the lw cdrom?You could try the new lightrom3?
>
> --
> Simon Blackledge                                       [e-mail]
>                  Creators of Digital Visual Effects
>                   -----------------------------
> -------------------T.R.A.N.S.M.I.S.S.I.O.N--3D/AV-----------------------------
>                   -----------------------------

  The pieces that come with lightwave are not quite good enough. I
was hoping there was something of a slightly higher quality.

Wayne R. Baldwin
[e-mail]

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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Mark Vearrier wrote:

> Wait, the point of the thesis is to help set up a network of info to
> help find a job...............
>
> Brilliant, what genius.
> --   BTW- Are you guys hiring any more LightWave 3D animators?
;) ;)..opps a network of info to help find a job, InterNet?
;)

Adam Chrystie
www2.ucsc.edu/people/adamchry/index.html
[e-mail]
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FOR SALE: Complete SGI production system

Shadow and Light Productions in San Francisco is selling off it's entire
unix computer graphics department at a VERY inexpensive price.
    Here it waht is included:

Hardware: SGI R4000 SC Indy (can upgrade to R5000), 64 mb ram, 24 bit
color, 2 GB hard drive storage, cd rom, floptical disk drive (can read
both Mac and PC floppies), 17" high rez monitor, silly indycam, ethernet
transceiver, KB, mouse with pad

Software: Alias Animator 7.0, Lightwave for SGI, Xaos Pabdemonium 2.7,
Xaos Ntitle 2.5, TV Paint, Trasfer Pro (can mount Mac and PC hd's on
SGI),Irix 5.3
ALL OF THE ABOVE FOR THE ASKING PRICE OF $13,000 OR BEST OFFER. If you
are in the market, you can't beat this deal. Contact Stuart at (415)
546-6133 or E-mail [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (HardCad)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: I can't get LightWave 4.0 to save my animations... HELP!
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:13:08 MET
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Hi,

When I make an animation with LightWave and go to the record menu, and look at
the animation file format, there is nothing there... It says -none- And when
I click on it, the only option I have is none. When I'm finished rendering,
and I have given my animation a name, nothing is saved on disk...
How come??? I have more experience with 3DS, but is LightWave better???

Thanx for all your input...
                        Bart-Jan Bosch
                        Holland
            Please MAIL me at:     [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Stewart)
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Subject: BOOKS
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In a message dated 27 Mar 1996 09:59:53 [e-mail] writes:

L> Hi there,

L> in Germany there are no Lightwave books available. Does anybody know books
L> about lightwave 3D or are there any books/hints/TXT files on the net for
L> download.
L> Tell me

     Lightwave 3D Techniques Search Engine

in the tagline below....

Christopher

                **********************************************
   Primordial   * Christopher Stewart   [e-mail] *    Graphics
      Soup      *     http://primordial.victoria.bc.ca/      *      WWW
   Animation    *   Home of the Lightwave 3D Search Engine   *    Training
                **********************************************




* Offline Orbit 0.73c *

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From: [e-mail] (Paul Mccoy)
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Just a note to let all Lightwavers know about a new website to check
out. It's the site for Webscape Design in Oshawa, Canada. We primarily
are a page design and graphics house (using LW of course!), but we
also market a package of macros called WaveTools. These macros are not
freeware but are affordably priced. They will really be of interest to
AMIGA users only that are using LW 3.1 or 3.5. Check out the details
at www.inforamp.net/~webscape. You'll see Lightwave Products in the
menu./



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From: [e-mail] ("Glyn Williams")
Subject: Re: 95 InterFace for NT ! (NT4 kicks bottom)
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NT 4.0 is now in Beta Test. The new version of NT4 has a full
implementation of the 95 shell and seems generally quicker and more
responsive then 3.51. It also has a slightly smaller memory footprint
which is good news for us Lightwavers.

We benchmarked it against 95 in running a render on a 32MB P6-200.
NT4 - did the render in 3mins 58 and under 95 the identical scene took
6.05

As far as  I can tell this is the only way to go!

Glyn Williams - Particle Systems Ltd (in the UK)

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From: Wooly Mittens <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: how would you make a propeller spin?
Date: 27 Mar 1996 14:59:27 GMT
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Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Uhhh...What problems are you experiencing in your attempts to
> make the propeller spin??

I would parent the prop. to the plane and make start and end keys
for it's rotation, maybe it would decellerate with the movement spline
though, not sure.

Wooly Mittens.

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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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It sounds like you did not install the AVI saver plugins.
Look in the manual for detail on how to install them.


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From: [e-mail] (Taka Torimoto)
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Anyone selling a copy.. like.. uh.. cheap?  =)
E-mail me with your asking price!

-taka (the poor college student)

--
Taka "Dr.Love" Torimoto             Electrical Engineering Senior (Class of 96)
340154 Georgia Tech Station         Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, GA  30332-1465             http://www.gatech.edu/taka
E-mail: [e-mail]    Flocking Sheep Productions, Team AMIGA

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From: Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:43:30 -0500
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> >If you're going to use a null to control camera movement, you need to delete all
> >of the camera's keyframes and leave it centered at 0,0,0 with no rotation.
> >Anything else, and you'll go insane trying to guess where it will end up when you
> >move it. You then treat the null as if it were the camera. The tough part is
> >remembering not to start moving the camera itself.
> >
> >Andrew Hofman
>
> I disagree. I use a null all the time to move and or rotate the
> camera. One way to help keep it straight is to think of the null
> object as the head of a tripod on wheels. I use the null to move the
> camera and often just rotate the camera for aim. This method has
> worked fine for me for years.
>
> Dave Paige

True enough. I do the same thing all the time. I guess by "move" I was referring
to translation in X,Y,Z space, not rotation.

Come to think of it, I've broken my own rule about not moving ("translating")
the camera as well, if only to a limited extent. On a recent project I needed
the camera to wind backwards through a serpentine path while smoothly tracking
up and down. I parented the camera to a null that acted like a dolly, moving
only in X and Z. Then I moved the camera itself strictly on the Y-axis. The
result was extremely smooth, like having one guy pushing the dolly, another
operating the crane and a third tilting the camera. Doing all of that by
keyframing just the camera, with no nulls, would have been ugly and taken
quite a bit longer.

--
Andrew Hofman
LumaQuest Productions
[e-mail]
513-643-7333

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From: Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: standalone renderer for LW needed
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:51:04 -0500
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> It would also be nice to specify more than two scenes to render in
> succession (I hate putting my alarm clock at 3:00 AM).
>
> Wooly Mittens.

You can run ScreamerNet and LightWave at the same time on one machine, then
cue up to sixteen scenes.

If you're using an Amiga, the April issue of VTU has a blurb (p.13) for a
product called WaveNet, which cues scenes and handles distributed rendering.
Price is $295, from D'Visions in Ontario. Their number is 519-455-7585.

--
Andrew Hofman
LumaQuest Productions
[e-mail]
513-643-7333

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From: Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Star Wars and LightWave
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:04:16 -0500
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>  As for "continuing to settle for
>  second best" that easy to say if your not doing the work. HELLO, this is
>   TV not hollywood.
>
>  BTW of the big three spacs shows B5, Voyager, Deep Space nine my favorite
>  is B5.
>
>  -bill
>

B5 is my favorite too. I should have spelled out more clearly what I meant by
"second best". That comment wasn't directed at Foundation, but at a certain
attitude I encounter among SOME LWer's in which any criticism, even constructive,
is greeted with anger because whatever it is was done with their favorite program
-- LightWave! And for that reason no criticism of any kind is allowed. Jeez, I love
LightWave too, but get a grip! It IS possible to make comments about the artist and
not his tools. BTW, I'm sure these folks would be less quick to get all worked up
in person. There's just something about the internet . . .

--
Andrew Hofman
LumaQuest Productions
[e-mail]
513-643-7333

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From: [e-mail] (Iden Rosenthal)
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At our software company we write 3d file format translators. We are
thinking about writing some for the LWB format but we are not sure if
you're needs are already being met by existing offerings (such as the
plug-ins that already ship with Lightwave or by Syndesis' Interchange
and other shareware products).

So, would you please tell us here or via email the answers to the
following questions, in your opinion for your work as a professional:

1) Do you have need of (meaning would you be interested in buying if it
were available) a standalone translator that converts 3ds format files
INCLUDING TEXTURE MAPPINGS and MATERIALS into LWB format ?

(Explanation of logic behind question: the currently available
translators are geometry only.  We could do texture maps but we aren't
sure professionals would want that feature. The possibility is that
professionals want to apply their own new texture maps anyway so you
wouldn't be interested in translating models from other formats with the
textures included since you are going to replace them anyway).

2) Besides 3dStudio, are there other file formats you would be willing
to pay for translators into Lightwave?

3) What price would you expect to pay for such translators?

4) Would you expect to buy them individually or as a set?

Thank you for your time and input,
Iden Rosenthal
Information Percolator
Acuris Inc.
http://www.acuris.com


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Garrison)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Tough character animation choice
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 02:28:52 GMT
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nir <[e-mail]> wrote:

>All :)

>Nice to see you all again, and I hope to come here much often than I used to in the last year (?!!)

>I'm facing a tough choice:

>I  need to do a character  animation of a Jaguar, sitting on a branch and leaping to attack.

>note that we plan to buy  the Jaguar, not model it.

>I have two options:

>A. Do it in Lightwave with bones
>
>pros: I know lightwave very well, and won't spend much time on preparing the animation, but
>rather on doing it.

>cons: My experiments with character animation using bones in LW usually end up with messed
>polygons and than reverting to cutting the object and animate joints.

>B. Do it in Alias V7 on a SGI Indy.

>pros: Alias is supposed to be much better in character (bones) animation. It has good IK, spline
>modelling etc.

>cons: I don't know sh!t about Alias. Or rather, what I know about it is sh!t. I have to learn enough
>to be able to do great Jaguar animation (and another small human animation) in the time frame.

>The time frame is approx. six weeks.

>Any suggestions? Tips for using bones for character animation in LW,  Tips on the same in Alias
>(If anyone here is using it)?

>Thanx all.

>Nir Hermoni,
>Zapa Digital Arts ltd.
>[e-mail]


As far as poly's go your object will be a poly set as well, so at this
point it depends on how much control you need. I have Alias and LW so
but I would not use LW for such a task myself. The problem is that you
have to bend a poly object as opposed to splines so funny things can
and do happen with poly's. If you have Power Animator with the
advanced anim option then you have access to it's IK functions which
are much superior to LW's and you also have clusters. The down side to
Alias though is that it's not very intuitive and will take some
tweaking as well as LW. If you don't know Alias IK at all then you had
better stick to LW because you won't have time to learn it. Either way
you will have some subdividing to do in certain areas any way to get
ti to render properly.


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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Prem's "Stranahan-esque" rant
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In article <4jbljc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Brad Peebler) wrote:
>[e-mail] (Simon Blackledge) wrote:
>
>
>>> > -- Prem (who's tired of seeing his favorite animation program
>>> >          almost as poorly marketed now is his favorite computer
>>> >          once was - let's hope NewTek doesn't follow CBM to the
>>> >          grave).
>
>>> Come on Prem, it couldn't be as bad as all that. I didn't feel
>>> the ad was so terrible. Advertising isn't a science anyway. You hit
>>> with some and miss with others. It depends on whom the particular
>>> ad was geared toward also. We all still love LightWave whether Newtek
>>> is attatched to it or not. I personally feel sure that LightWave
>>> couldn't possibly die, even if Newtek did.
>
>>I still think it looks better than 3ds4 ad :-}
>>At least the color scemes good and the layouts not bad.Put it on a
>>wall against other adds and see which one stands out .
>
>Let me point out that while many current LightWave users may not like
>the "we've got what it takes" ad, it has generated more calls to
>customer service than any ad we have run in the past. I know its hard
>for LightWave users to see an ad that doesnt show off the output, or
>tout the feature list, but this ad cut through the noise. It was
>different, it had a good message, and it prompted people to call. And
>yes sales went up.
>
>Now, let me follow that by saying the ad has run its course. It did
>what was intended and now we are ready to change gears. With a new
>release on the horizon (thats all Im saying!) its time to refocus
>marketing efforts not only on new users but also on the existing
>install base. In May issues you will see new ads with a user focus.
>

Hmmm . . .  so "with a new release on the horizon" there'll be a new ad and
"In May issues you will see new ads" I put 2 and 2 together and think that LW5
will be available around May :-)

I'm sure you'll confirm this for me, Brad :-))

Or maybe 2+2 does equal 3.9999998409989 (on an early Pentium anyway)

Cheers

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Kevin Gleeson
Imagine It
3D animation and graphics
Hobart
Tasmania
Australia

The Librarian Rules! - OOOK!
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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From: [e-mail] (Richard Garrison)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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[e-mail] ("Glyn Williams") wrote:

>NT 4.0 is now in Beta Test. The new version of NT4 has a full
>implementation of the 95 shell and seems generally quicker and more
>responsive then 3.51. It also has a slightly smaller memory footprint
>which is good news for us Lightwavers.

>We benchmarked it against 95 in running a render on a 32MB P6-200.
>NT4 - did the render in 3mins 58 and under 95 the identical scene took
>6.05

>As far as  I can tell this is the only way to go!

>Glyn Williams - Particle Systems Ltd (in the UK)


I have recently configured a 200mhz. P6 for my company also and I have
NT4.0 beta running on it as well. The only thing that I could not get
to run is the Perception card. I talked to DPS and they said there
were no drivers available yet until the final release. Has anybody
else got one to run under NT4.0? BTW LW really flys on this baby!



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From: Rick Brewer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Textures for Lightwave
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:34:33 -0500
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David Hofmann wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for procedural textures for Lightwave Intel. If anyone has
> any addresses or ideas, please let me know.
>
> TIA
>
> -David Hofmann (Munich, Germany)
> [e-mail]
> Go "http://www.presair.com/usr/dhofmann/" for dolphin photos.

David--

They aren't procedural, however the "Texture Land" home page has some
excellent (and interesting) texture maps.  I believe they are in .jpg
format.

Texture Land can be reached at http://www.meat.com/textures/

Regards,

R.

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From: [e-mail] (BocadaLupo)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Problems with pyromania CD
Date: 28 Mar 1996 00:02:53 -0500
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Well I finally got a copy of the pyromania cd from educorp...only problem
is that when i try to load a sequence, it says it does but it doesn't...I
have several of the targa sequences copied to hard disk in my newtek
directory(thinking that was the trouble) but still no dice...what the heck
am I doing wrong?  Any help would be appreciated...

thanks in advance,

Joshua Qualtieri
The Continuum
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: Rick Brewer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave 4.0 Deficiency
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:53:57 -0500
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >   [e-mail] (thROB) writes:
> >  >Also, why can't you exclude objects from lights in Layout?
>
>         Somebody misses 3DS....
>

I've never used 3DS, but I've often thought this would be a valuable
layout tool in LW.  Look at how we have to fake volumetric light/shadows--
the volumetric effects cast shadows themselves(!).

[misc. clipped]

> >
> >  In layout, it would be nice to have a "render object" button, so we
> >  don't have to use the limited region option, and just have the object
> >  rendered just as it were in the scene.
>
>         Oooo, I like this suggestion:  also, it would be simple to implement,
>         as Allen could just make ALL the other objects temporarily have a
>         object dissolve of 100%.  (Always good to suggest methodologies in your
>         suggestions.)

I like this one as well-- often wished I had it to do that quick check on a
model...

Regards,

R.

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From: [e-mail] (Fabio Bizzetti)
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Subject: Z-Buffer (Deep-Maps) in LightWave
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Hi :)

I would need to know if LightWave is able to output not only the color of
each pixel, but also its _distance_ from the camera (for Z-buffering).

This function is called "Deep-Map", if I am not wrong.

If it exists (as expansion?), I would need to know the name, its cost, and if
there's a demo available somewhere (Amiga only).


Please, send replyes via email at [e-mail] because I cannot read
this newsgroup. :P

Many thanks pals.



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From: BJ <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: any one use forge?what are pros & cons?
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To: emmanuel olympia <[e-mail]>

emmanuel olympia wrote:
>
> I have heard many things about forge and was wondering if someone here can
> elaborate more on it.  I mainly would like to use it for making textures
> and image maps.  what are its strengths and is it available for the amiga
> and nt platforms?  thx
>
> emmanuel

Emmanuel:

    The Forge package is avalible only for the amiga. not
for the PC. It is basicly a front end for a set of textures
called Essence, and developed by Steve Worleywho is ***Rummor
Warning*** now working for NewTek. The textures were origanly
developed for use with Imagne. That's why you need the front
end, Forge.

The Pros: It is a really nice piece of work. It alows you to
create fully animated textures with extream controle over many
attributes.

The Cons: ***Rummor Warning***If you can wait the Essence
package should be directly avalible for the LW as a plug-in
very soon (we'll know more after NAB).

If you are using the PC and have access to Photoshop I highly
recomend KPT3.0 it has some very nice texture development tools
although not as 3D oriented as Forge.

Brad HAyes

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From: [e-mail] (RPM)
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I've recently switched lightwave platforms from Amiga to the PC. I
know that on both platforms, the only way to get full screen, 3o fps
animations is through hardware solutions.(ie par cards, or single
frame vcrs) The amiga did, however allow the use of anim. files for
low res previews.  Are there any software utilities to create avi. or
mpeg anims with the sequential files I create in lightwave on my PC?

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From: [e-mail](Jeffrey S. Haynie )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LWPro Compilation Book
Date: 28 Mar 1996 03:37:38 GMT
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In <4jb6a8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (The Digital Nomad)
writes:
>
>William Leventry ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: On 22 Mar 1996 12:07:43 -0500, [e-mail] (J Plant) wrote:
>: technically in violation of the law. I believe you must notify (in
>: writing) of a delay in shipment, and offer a refund if desired. I
>: don't think a post to Usenet gets it.
>
>Well, the policy exists(not just for them..but for several merchants).

>What happens is they get your card # and get an authorization for
>charging the amount to your card...they then have from 3-7 days to
>actually send in the charge.... I work for a comany that does
this...so I
>have seen this in effect.. BUT, you _are_ correct about their
procedure
>being illegal..they have a bunch of possible credit fraud charges
against
>them currently if a product was not shipped when stated at the time of

>charge.
>
>: Sorry if this post seems rash, but frankly I'm getting REAL tired
>: of the piss poor business practices of companies related to LW in
>: general. IMHO, in a more competitive market, you'd have been in
>: bankruptcy a loooong time ago.
>:
>I agree...there has gotta be something done about this...maybe a
credit
>fraud charge _would_ do 'em some good?? I dunno anymore..I don't
purchase
>unless I can get the product in my grubby little hands in 3 days..and
if
>I can't I know what credit cards are good for....cancelling
charges..:)
>

I'm not sure which state these people conduct business in but most
states have a governor's department of consumer affairs and they
provide legal aide to tax payers by investigating and prosecuting
consumer fraud.

Another agency dedicated to the aide of consumers is the Federal Trade
Commission.  This agency is known for its no-nonsense tenacity when it
comes to consumer/credit fraud.

Hope this helps all affected.

Jeff Haynie


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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:15:27 +0000
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Actually, i remember john saying IT did not slow down
rendering..I have not noticed ANY slowdown in my render
speeds. I've been using the 95 shell for months now.

Adam Chrystie
www2.ucsc.edu/people/adamchry


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From: [e-mail](Joe Schrengohst )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Solid, Shaded, Modeler previews
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Solid, Shaded, Modeler previews without OpenGL or Powerview.
Best of all it's free.

First of all save your model using the VRML saver plugin.
Then you need a VRML web browser.
You don't need to have an Internet connection to use this just the
browser. I am using Netscape's Live3D VRML browser.
After saving your model out as VRML it will have a .wrl extension
you can load this into your VRML Browser and spin it, fly it, and
rotate it in real time.

It's free, it's real time, and it's much better than the Amiga version
of powerview, haven't seen the PC version yet.

JS


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From: [e-mail] (Chris Blanos)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: 32 bit output on Intel Lightwave?
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[e-mail] (Brad Peebler) wrote:

>[e-mail] ("Glyn Williams") wrote:

>>Brad,
>>        Are Newtek aware that the entire AVI mechanism under Windows is
>>about to get a much overdue overhaul? The new (Quartz) system will
>>integrate plug-in encoders and decoders and will feature a software MPEG
>>solution.  This sounds like good news to me - and I suspect good news for
>>your development team.

>Yes, we are following Quartz development.

What is Quartz?

- Chris
chrisb@.njcc.com
http://pluto.njcc.com/~chrisb/



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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave Pros: Need Your Opinions!
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In message <4jajkl$[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (Iden Rosenthal) writes:

> At our software company we write 3d file format translators. We are
> thinking about writing some for the LWB format but we are not sure if
> you're needs are already being met by existing offerings (such as the
> plug-ins that already ship with Lightwave or by Syndesis' Interchange
> and other shareware products).

> So, would you please tell us here or via email the answers to the
> following questions, in your opinion for your work as a professional:

> 1) Do you have need of (meaning would you be interested in buying if it
> were available) a standalone translator that converts 3ds format files
> INCLUDING TEXTURE MAPPINGS and MATERIALS into LWB format ?

> (Explanation of logic behind question: the currently available
> translators are geometry only.  We could do texture maps but we aren't
> sure professionals would want that feature. The possibility is that
> professionals want to apply their own new texture maps anyway so you
> wouldn't be interested in translating models from other formats with the
> textures included since you are going to replace them anyway).

> 2) Besides 3dStudio, are there other file formats you would be willing
> to pay for translators into Lightwave?

> 3) What price would you expect to pay for such translators?

> 4) Would you expect to buy them individually or as a set?

> Thank you for your time and input,
> Iden Rosenthal
> Information Percolator
> Acuris Inc.
> http://www.acuris.com

How about alias2lw lw2alias  soft2lw lw2soft.
Polygons always not spline to lw ,just as long as the conversion
keeps the surfaces.Although if u hold on for lw5 u could be looking
at a spline converter along with uv coordinates :-}





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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: should i sell my a4000 and get a pentium/nt machine
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 11:39:18 GMT
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In article <4ic95i$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (emmanuel olympia) wrote:
>
>I am just wondering the pros and cons of buying a pentium/nt system as
>oppose to keeping my a4000 video toaster system.  up til now, the only
>thing i ever use my a4000 for is lightwave.  I would like your thoughts on
>these before I decide.  thx.
>

Much as I loved my Amigas, the answer has to be SELL!

Any future Amiga that has any grunt is unlikely to be useful with the other
software you may have at the moment. ie: If the Amiga comes back it will be in
a radically different from to your 4000 and you will need to buy new software
(OK maybe not entirely true - but do you want to still be running 5 year-old
software on a RISC based Amiga - I think not!)

You want render speed and the latest upgrades - they will happen on the PC -
it's a bitch isn't it.

My Warp engine 4000/040/40 was running at 50 MIPS, I now have two Pentiums
each running at 250 MIPS. I traded my Amiga on one of the Pentiums as a direct
swap - for a five fold rendering speed increase.

OK - rendering speed ain't everything, but it's a fairly significant factor.

No - the PC's don't multi-task like the Amiga. Not even close. I was doing a
Syquest to HDD copy of about 250 Meg of data this morning and the whole box
slowed down - just from a file-copy! (Please - no Mac arguments here!)

Basically, you'll regret losing the ease of the Amiga's OS but you'll gain
heaps in speed, flexibility of add-ons and the wide range of good software
that is available for MicroSloth.

PS If you can afford NT- bypass 95

Cheers

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Kevin Gleeson
Imagine It
3D animation and graphics
Hobart
Tasmania
Australia

The Librarian Rules! - OOOK!
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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[e-mail] (Glen Mead) writes:
> Hi All,
>
>   As a fairly inexperienced 3D animator, I'm trying to model a golf ball.
> However, simply bump mapping a series of dimples (actually one dimple,
> multiple copies) wrapped around a sphere does not create a realistic looking
> golf ball...although it may do in a pinch.  The problem is that the spacing,
> size, and shape of the dimples changes due to the wrap while all these
> elements are consistent on a real golf ball.  How does one model a truly
> realistic looking golf ball?  If anybody could give me some pointers on how
> to do this (or find the necessary files to do so) it would be greatly
> appreciated.  For the recorde, I am using Alias Animator 6.0 (not Power
> Animator).  Thank-you in advance.
>
> Glen Mead - [e-mail]

I don't know if you would be able to translate it, but there
is a LightWave golfball object (Not tried it) at:
ftp://tomahawk.grandi.com/pub/LW/objects


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From: Per Willfor <[e-mail]>
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Could anyone tell me where to find a program that converts
3ds-files to lightwave-files.
I would be very happy. :)

[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Michael D. Bartman)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Computer Graphics Job Offer
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:36:36 GMT
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KEVIN MCLAINE <[e-mail]> wrote:

>WORK FROM YOUR HOME WITH YOUR COMPUTER


>3RD Dimension Technologies, INC, a Hollywood special FX company

>searching for computer literate people to contract with to assist

>in 3D graphics. Will train but must already know Windows 3.1 or better.

For anyone who was thinking of checking this out, save yourself the
trouble.  They're trying to sell a bit of software called "3D-Express"
for $485.  The "job offer" is just a come-on to get you to buy the
software.

They claim to be building a CD-ROM of 3D models, and offer $200 to
$800 per model.  They say they need 20,000 models for the CD (think
about it...that's $4 million to $16 million in payments to collect
that many.  What's the market size for a 3D model CD-ROM?  How about 4
years from now (their estimate for when they'll have it done)?

My guess is that if you buy their software and make a model with it,
you will find that either your model isn't "up to the desired quality
level, try again" or the phone has been disconnected...

-- Mike "a little cynical, but my B.S. detector bent its needle on
this one" Bartman --


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From: Andrew Hofman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Star Wars and Lightwave
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:56:15 -0500
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> > >  > It would definitely add something - remember the upside-down and
> > >  > sideways rooms in the 2001: space station dock, or the long pull back
> > >  > showing Bruce Dern in the galley window of the Valley Forge in Silent
> > >  > Running?
> >
> >         Yeah:  where'd the gravity come from on that ship?
> >
>
> If you remember, they used magnetic boots, or for running, they used a rotating
> room, and the space station rotated. I don't think they left too much to bad
> science in 2001.
>
> Elliot Bain

There was rotating section on the 2001 ship, with the rest of it in zero gravity
(or supposedly -- see below). But I think J. Eric was asking about the gravity in
Silent Running. Where did THAT come from? That ship had no rotating sections
whatsoever.

Now for some continuity problems: Early in 2001, remember the sequence with the
moon shuttle, when they're flying out to take a look at the Artifact? They were
eating sandwiches, moving around and POURING COFFEE as if there was Earth gravity
onboard. And that shuttle definitely wasn't of the rotating hull variety. A bit of
a contrast from all that space ballet stuff just a couple scenes earlier, with food
in pouches and velcro slippers, etc.

On the ship that goes to Jupiter, the spinning section (not visible from outside)
is supposed to be the only area with gravity, right? You can tell that it's a
narrow disc in the middle of the living sphere. Good science so far. But what about
the infamous pod bay? It couldn't possibly be spinning, yet as I recall both it and
the cockpit also have gravity. Huh?

--
Andrew Hofman
LumaQuest Productions
[e-mail]
513-643-7333

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From: [e-mail] (Paul Tomblin)
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In a previous article, [e-mail] (Glen Mead) said:
>elements are consistent on a real golf ball.  How does one model a truly
>realistic looking golf ball?  If anybody could give me some pointers on how

Well, one thing that I'm sure would make a huge difference is to remember that
the dimples on a golf ball are on a hexagonal grid, not a square one.


--
Paul Tomblin, Contract Programmer.
I don't speak for Kodak, they don't speak for me.
(Email that is not work related should go to: [e-mail])
"You are in a twisty maze of Motif Widget resources, all inconsistent."

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From: [e-mail] (Brad Peebler)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Prem's "Stranahan-esque" rant
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[e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson) wrote:



>Hmmm . . .  so "with a new release on the horizon" there'll be a new ad and
>"In May issues you will see new ads" I put 2 and 2 together and think that LW5
>will be available around May :-)

>I'm sure you'll confirm this for me, Brad :-))

>Or maybe 2+2 does equal 3.9999998409989 (on an early Pentium anyway)

I dont want to fall into the pre-announce gig, so I'll have to say
wait and see!   :)

BP


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From: [e-mail] (Brad Peebler)
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Subject: Re: Prem's "Stranahan-esque" rant
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[e-mail] (Stranahan) wrote:


>...it did surely not
>generate more calls in general - there were may more 'Revolution' calls,
>certainly

The"We've got" ad was generating close to 1000 calls a month. When the
Revolution campaign ran no one was logging numbers. So there is no way
to compare.

>4) It's hard to test these things without a control group.

Thank goodness we are tracking things now. In the future we will have
a control of sorts.

>....stop trying to put a postive spin on everything...

?


BP
NewTek


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From: [e-mail] (James Jones/Nibbles and Bits)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Help Find Lee Stranahan a Job!
Date: 28 Mar 1996 17:22:27 GMT
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[e-mail] said:

>No.  A meter doesn't "have" length.  Light doesn't "have" photons.
>Money doesn't "have" value.  To put it another way, *what is* money?

   Money is a form of communication, allowing people to transmit
information *about* value.

   I think the trouble comes from different interpretations of the
word "value." It seems to me that value, in this context, implies
a real-world usefulness, such as the value of a shovel is its use
for digging holes.
   Money, apart from being able to be exchanged for something OF
"value", does not have any real use.

   I could be very wrong, of course. Give me some money, and I'll
devote more thought to the matter. :)

   -Jim

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From: Ace Miles <[e-mail]>
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I'm planning on going at least for one or two days in the
middle.

--
 Ace Miles * Senior Animator * Time Warner Interactive
   [e-mail] (work)  or   [e-mail] (home)
 My opinions are not necessarily those of my employer.
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel J. McCoy)
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In article <4jctqq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
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>I have recently configured a 200mhz. P6 for my company also and I have
>NT4.0 beta running on it as well. The only thing that I could not get
>to run is the Perception card. I talked to DPS and they said there
>were no drivers available yet until the final release. Has anybody
>else got one to run under NT4.0? BTW LW really flys on this baby!

I've got a P133 with a Perception card running NT 4.0 beta 1.  The only thing
I can't do is create new projects within the PVR software itself nor can I
render directly to it.  But it plays back just fine.  :)

Dan

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From: [e-mail] (Simon Blackledge)
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In message <[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (RPM) writes:

> I've recently switched lightwave platforms from Amiga to the PC. I
> know that on both platforms, the only way to get full screen, 3o fps
> animations is through hardware solutions.(ie par cards, or single
> frame vcrs) The amiga did, however allow the use of anim. files for
> low res previews.  Are there any software utilities to create avi. or
> mpeg anims with the sequential files I create in lightwave on my PC?


Try intalling the plugin  nt-avi
Save animation type choose avi 16 32 or nt
nt allows u to select the codec before rendering
Save file as name.avi
let me know how u get on:-}
ps there seem to be some probs at the moment but fixes in the works i think?

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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
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Jim May wrote:

> > Money doesn't "have" value; it *is* value.
>
> To whom?  and for what?

Irrelevant.  The distinction is between an identity (money = value) and
a property that merely attaches to money.  You say later that "money is
an abstraction of wealth."  Just substitute "value" for "wealth."  Value
is a better word anyway.

> There is no ontological "why".  Existence exists, has always been, and
> will always be (whatever form it may take.)

Okay.  Why?

> Money is an _abstraction_ of wealth; it is used because it makes
> practical large transactions.  Bartering with OPEC [...]

It makes *all* commerce practical.  I want movie tickets, and will trade
an hour's work for them.  The theatre doesn't want my work, but another
firm does.  And so on.

> But your paper bills are only desirable

"Desirable" is irrelevant.  Value is subjective.  This doesn't touch the
issue of *what* money is.

> so long as they are exchangeable for actual goods.

Coupons work this way, but they're not money.

> If those goods are no longer there (after a bad catastrophe or war,
> suppose), what will you do?  *Is* money still value?  To whom, and for
> what?  Are you familiar with the German hyperinflation of 1920, or more
> recent equivalents?  If money is value, those countries ought to be
> filthy rich, down to the last starving child, yes?

As I've said, *how much* value isn't the issue.

> But when you get right down to the nitty gritty, what the business
> _creates_ is its product/service.  When it gets paid in money, it is
> simply converting that wealth into a liquid (abstract) form, to be
> reconverted into real goods (employee services, hardware) as needed
> _for the continued and increased production of more and better product_.
> I couldn't figure out why my father told me that he worked "to make
> money", but his company actually made auto parts...until I understood
> the abstraction.

You forgot "profit."  The whole point of a business.  You do not create
product for the mere purpose of converting it into cash.  You do not
need a business for the mere purpose of creating product.  A *business*
is a thing that generates for you a residue of value that you can put in
your pocket and take home.  An enterprise that fails to do this is a
hobby, or an avocation, or a church or a government.

> (I've been getting the "off-topic" nervous itch with this thread

Me too.  Hopefully I'm done.

- Ernie


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From: Manuel Coats <[e-mail]>
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Subject: NEW VIDEO:  How to start your own animation business
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:37:07 +0000
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I've got a question for those of you who are successfully working as
> independent/freelance animators (and I'm open to all definitions of
> "successfully") about marketing your skills.  From what I've read,
> my question will probably be answered in some detail when Tom Rennen's
> videotape comes out, but I'd like to get the opinions of other
> animators, too.

Just to let you all know, the video "How to start your own animation business" by
Tom Rennen of Intelligent Light should be shipping by the end of next week.  Feel
free to call and place your orders from Lightspeed now.  Your credit cards will
NOT be charged until we ship you your merchandise.  To order, call one of the #'s
below:

US Orders 800-764-8696  All other orders 805-726-3545  Information 805-726-3546
Fax Orders 805-726-3544.

Secured on-line ordering via our web page should be functional in the next couple
of weeks.   http://www.webcom.com/lghtspd


Here is some information about the video mentioned.

"STARTING YOUR OWN ANIMATION BUSINESS"

Stop spending money and start making it!

With the onslaught of tech toys and the latest and greatest software, it's easy
to be trapped into thinking that you don't have enough gear or money to begin
your own business. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE! Regardless of what you have there
is SOMEONE out there who will pay for what you have to offer. It may very well be
that what you have to offer is all they can afford, which means you can begin
making money right away!

Stay 100% debt free!

Don't take out leases, and don't empty your savings to purchase your equipment.
If you get a job and you don't have the resources to get it completed, FEAR NOT!
There is a simple solution, and in many cases you can get it done without
spending any money!

How to market successfully!

Getting work isn't as hard as it seems. With visual communications on the rise,
there are more and more people looking for someone to produce their projects.
We'll show you where to look!

Learn to quickly qualify your clients!

Since there are so many people looking for animation and production services,
you'll be amazed at the lengths some will go to get your services. We'll teach
you the right questions to ask to quickly qualify your prospects sincerity and
their ability to pay!

Closing the sale!

What do you say to convince your potential client that you are the one for the
job? We'll tell you! Walk away from your meeting with a new client and money to
make for your new business!

Pitfalls! There are jobs you can afford not to take!

Which jobs are right? Under optimum circumstances, all jobs are right. However,
there are jobs that you should avoid like the plague! Find out which ones, and
why.

Learn what to charge for your services!

The most frequently asked question of me is, "How do I know what to charge?"
We'll show you a simple formula that you can use for getting all that your worth!
No guess work! You'll know that you are making a profit for everything that you
do!

Collect from the ones who won't pay!

There are many little (less than $75) or no money down steps that you can take to
collect for your services. Theft of service is one of the highest forms of theft
in the United States today! We'll show you how to protect yourself from getting
robbed, and how to collect!

How to create a perfect demo!

Let's face it. You can have all the great toys but without work, you're HOSED!
Learn how to put a tape together that will assure you of a high degree of
success! This could be a whole tape by itself!

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Learn how to manage your business and manage your money while keeping Uncle
Sam off your back! Oh yeah, he can be a client too! We'll tell you how!

Plus LOTS more!!!

2 1/2 hours of video for only $59.95.  This purchase is a business write-off, so
order yours today.

M.Coats
LIGHTSPEED

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Whitney)
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Subject: Re: how would you make a
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On 03-27-96, [e-mail] was going on about Re: how would you
make a

0>From: Wooly Mittens <[e-mail]>
  >Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]> wrote:
  >>
  >> Uhhh...What problems are you experiencing in your attempts to
  >> make the propeller spin??
  >
  >I would parent the prop. to the plane and make start and end keys
  >for it's rotation, maybe it would decellerate with the movement
  >spline though, not sure.
  >


For what it's worth, there's a scene under the Scenes/Vehicles directory
that has a P-51 Mustang object that has the prop spinning motion
already.

M.

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